Traditional Conservatives Must Read

Traditional Conservatives Must Read

Postby Thomas » Tue May 15, 2007 10:14 am

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From Publishers Weekly
Starred Review. Make no mistake: author Gold, a former speechwriter for George H.W. Bush and aide to Barry Goldwater, is one disgusted Republican. The GOP of the 2006 midterm election, he writes, is "a party of pork-barrel ear-markers like Dennis Hastert, of political hatchet men like Karl Rove, and of Bible-thumping hypocrites like Tom Delay." Gold looks to Goldwater, "a straight-talking, freethinking maverick," as the yardstick by which to measure just how far the party of Lincoln has fallen. He traces the beginning of the end to the 1980 Republican National Convention and the presence of "a militant new element...personified by Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell." The other half of the equation, the neoconservatives, are embodied by Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld, "two cuts from the same Machiavellian cloth." In efficient prose, Gold scrutinizes a significant swath of recent GOP history, in particular Newt Gingrich's 104th Congress and the Bush II White House, without losing momentum. He also has choice words for "the Coulterization of Republican rhetoric," the revolving door between Capitol Hill and K Street, and "sideshow" legislation like the Flag Protection Amendment. Gold sees a promising future for the Republican Party, but not until they lose some major elections and are able to keep down a slice of humble pie; for those disillusioned with the state of the GOP, this quick, uncompromising polemic provides substantial support, along with a large dose of cold comfort.
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Postby etowah » Tue May 15, 2007 9:21 pm

The GOP follies are surpassed only by those of the Democrats.
This election will be no different,
He who keeps on dropping the ball doesn't
want to be in the game.
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Postby Thomas » Wed May 16, 2007 6:05 am

The faults lie in the realm of adherence to a philosophical bent. Philosophies become dogmas and dogmas do not know how to change with the times. Nearly everything to do with government is a dynamic process that calls for quickly responding to new demands . If we do not find a way to make this republic more responsive it will fail. In fact, if it were possible, I would expect a major coup prior to or in the midst of the next election. The Neo-Cons never envisioned giving up power once attained.

The fact, seen very clearly by men like Jefferson, Franklin, Washington, is that the average citizen doesn't have the brain power to govern himself let alone a nation. The question arises, therefore, how to protect the masses from their own ignorance without taking away their freedoms. How do you attract the best minds into the governing business?

I have heard it said that our government is not perfect but it's the best there is. Maybe it's time to have one of those major confabs Jefferson insisted on making a part of the constitution that allows for a rewrite every 19 years (weird number) and which we have not availed ourselves of ever?
I think we are over due for more than just some tweaking.
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nice Klugman article

Postby willard » Fri May 18, 2007 12:53 pm

Here's an interesting take on the current state of affairs within the GOP by Klugman.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/18/1283/
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nice Klugman article

Postby willard » Fri May 18, 2007 12:54 pm

Here's an interesting take on the current state of affairs within the GOP by Klugman.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/18/1283/
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Re: nice Klugman article

Postby etowah » Fri May 18, 2007 11:33 pm

willard wrote:Here's an interesting take on the current state of affairs within the GOP by Klugman.

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/05/18/1283/



Thanks, Willard. Typical New York Times slant.

With all the Democratic hand wringing over Iraq, they are unable
to get an overridable bill to exit Iraq past President Bush's veto pen.
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Postby Thomas » Wed May 23, 2007 9:47 pm

Question: What is meant by "Typical New York Times slant"? Paul Krugman is not on the editorial staff of the New York Times. He is an op-ed contributor and professor of economics at Princeton University who speaks for himself, not for the New York Times. Surprise, surprise, the Times has conservative contributors to their op-ed page as well, for example William Safire, a speech writer for Richard Nixon and Spiro Agnew.
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Postby Yellow_Dog » Thu May 24, 2007 9:16 am

Thomas I'm sure you are aware that many that support the current regime in this country are blindly intolerant of facts and reality. I see the bias toward the NYT in most political discussions, so at some point the NYT must have really stepped on some simian toes. I wish I knew which article it was.

I know you have been around these discussions enough to know that neocons always blame MSM (main stream media) for all of the failings of this administration, and it little cluster fornication in the middle east.
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Postby 4tees » Thu May 24, 2007 6:13 pm

Those on the "extreme right" like to accuse everyone else of bias rather than admit the reality that they are the ones out of touch with the America and with what our founding fathers meant for us to be as a nation. They desire absolute control akin to that of Hitler, Stalin, and all the other ruthless dictators throughout history. They also want and promote elimination of any views or beliefs different from theirs; much like the Islamic fundamentalists they claim to abhor. It has been their tactic from day one to insist their distorted view is the norm despite overwhelming and undeniable evidence to the contrary. Basically they believe (and have unfortunately been proven correct to some extent) that if you tell a lie often enough, and with enough apparent conviction, eventually many amongst the gullible masses will accept that lie as truth. Ignoring the facts is part of this strategy of deception.
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Postby Yellow_Dog » Thu May 24, 2007 7:23 pm

Letter in today AC-T


As war in Iraq fails, finger-pointing starts
by Hal Hogstrom
published May 24, 2007 12:15 am

At the end of that mass insanity which was the First World War, factions in the German army returned home with the conviction that they had been betrayed into defeat by disloyal elements in German society. The Nazi Party soon provided the necessary scapegoats to support this delusion.

It has become painfully apparent that, in Iraq, our civilian leaders have inflicted our splendid military with an impossible task: to impose a viable peace upon a society fatally riven with profound and ancient dissension. To charge the military with responsibility for the defeat that now seems inescapable would be grotesquely unjust. Yet culprits must be found.

Right-wing bloviators such as Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Bill O?Reilly enthusiastically endorsed the tragic folly in Iraq. Stung by the monumental failure of that undertaking, they are now casting about for scapegoats. Among their nominations are the ?backstabbing? Democrats (Hannity), ?far-left fanatics in the media? (O?Reilly) and the Democratic Party which has ?aligned itself? with ?America?s enemies? (Limbaugh).

These desperate hysterics are doing their best to pollute public discussion of the war with their claims that disloyal Americans are willfully betraying the nation into defeat.

Why not? After all, that strategy worked superbly for the Nazis.

Hal Hogstrom, Asheville
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